Bridging the Rift #1: Torchwood: What Happens Next?

Subwave Network album artFollowing the dramatic events of Torchwood: Children of Earth, this episode we’re looking at the creative reaction and discussing what might happen next with Torchwood series 4, including a discussion of if there should even be a series 4 at all.

Our guest panellist is Liz from Doctor Who fan fiction archive A Teaspoon And An Open Mind also known as Calapine on LiveJournal.

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Show Notes

Rebuttals

We briefly discuss feedback to our backdoor pilot episode, Radio Free Skaro Wednesday Cutaway: The Ballad of Jack and Ianto (See the comments on that post for an excellent follow up discussion).

Creativity Corner

After Torchwood: Children of Earth, we look at fan creative reactions to ‘the unhappy event’:

uWho: Children of Earth Day 3 comic by spune-who on deviantART.

Children of Earth – Mad World by YouTube user MusicDoll28 aka lourdes228 on LiveJournal.

Endgame off the Board (Or, The Life and Times of Pieces Already Taken) by Elliptic Eye on LiveJournal.

Partial silhouette pencil Torchwood drawings by deviantART user illgetmerope.

We also listen to a brief clip of Lloyd in the Void by Technicolour Chaos available in full from their MySpace and also on the soon to be released Trock On compilation album (see links in Trocking Out below).

Discussion

We discuss various characters and whether we’d like to see them back in series 4: Official BBC character key.

We speculate about if there’ll be a series 4: Comic Mix reports that BBC America reported that Torchwood was picked up for series 4, as yet no one else has confirmed or denied this.

We quote small extracts from the Ausiello Files interview with Russell T Davies at EW.com about the involvement of Jack and if it’ll be a mini series.

We talk about other ideas for continuing Torchwood instead of a straight on present day series: Nat’s ideas on the subject, as previously posted on LiveJournal.

Next Time

In episode 2 we’ll be discussing fandom’s reactions to the new Eleventh Doctor costume, Amy Pond, the Tardis exterior and the series 5 or series 1 naming controversy. There’ll also be more Time Lord Rock and plenty of other creative pursuits!

Trocking Out

We play out with When Autons Attack by Turn Left, which is on the up coming Time Lord Rock compilation album Trock On available for pre-order from DFTBA records and from 6th of August from Amazon MP3 and soon after from iTunes.

Thanks to Georgia of Turn Left for kind permission to use this track. We recommend you also visit Georgia’s excellent Time Lord Rock News, a fantastic source of information on new trock songs, bands and releases.

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8 Responses to Bridging the Rift #1: Torchwood: What Happens Next?

  1. [...] Our two main co-hosts are not only fans of all three Doctor Who Universe shows, but also the fandom’s creativity. We’re also aiming to bring in guest hosts to bring new perspectives to our discussions and cover all sides of the story and all the corners of the fandom. So join us weekly, with new episodes usually released on Wednesdays or Thursdays. Subscribe on iTunes, add our feed or download directly from the site. Here’s a link to Episode One – Torchwood: What Happens Next? [...]

  2. Great show guys.
    I’d love to see a steam-punk Torchwood. I can already hear the “Oscar Wilde must cameo” threads.
    well done, best of luck with the new podcast
    -D

  3. Dave Finlayson says:

    Really enjoyed this podcast. Already head-and-shoulders above so many others. Intelligent, funny and thought-provoking. Good mix of hosts. Nat, you’re an interesting and engaging presenter and you’re ideas are wide-ranging and intriguing. My only complaint; I felt Katrina seemed a bit sidelined at times as Nat’s ideas for Torchwood grew ever wilder and head-spinning!

    Personally, I feel Torchwood should continue if RTD wants it to. I don’t think he would dilute the power of CoE but of course he can’t mainatain that level of intensity. It’d be wrong to forget Joe Public by going ‘Victorian’. I’d like to see a more straight-forward (not in a banal sense) sequel to series 3 with some of the characters that wer introduced in CoE. It wouldn’t bother me if Cpt Jack wasn’t in it but Gwen needs to be, to at least bridge the teams.

    The anthology series idea could work and would certainly give the writers enormous scope.

    • Nat says:

      Sorry it’s taken so long to reply to your feedback, it was very encouraging to receive it!

      We definitely take your point about hosting balance and have discussed making sure that when a discussion’s someone one of us has more to say about, the other should moderate. Obviously the trock special ended up slanted more towards me again because Katrina wasn’t familiar with the subject, but there’ll of course be subjects where the reverse will happen and Katrina will be on ‘home territory’ while I will only have basic knowledge.

      Thanks again for your encouragement and constructive suggestions, I hope you’ve continued to enjoy episodes 2 and 3!

  4. Todd says:

    Oops, I should have left this message here:

    Hello Rifties (Rifters, Rifti?),

    I just finished listening to your first full podcast and I am really impressed. Thank you for your thoughtful and entertaining analysis of Doctor Who and Torchwood fandom. I also really enjoyed your talk on Radio Free Skaro, which was why I was so happy to see you were starting your own podcast. It is at the top of my podcast (and not just alphabetically, but that too) list now and I look forward to your future discussions.

    I have fallen into a deep fandom of Doctor Who and Torchwood, which has been a surprise since although I always enjoyed sci-fi, I have never ventured into the world of fandom or had the urge to collect series on DVD or follow it with such passion. Now, at the age of 34, all the way up in Vancouver, BC, Canada, I find myself looking for Who podcasts, and even took the extraordinary step of travelling down to San Diego to see the Doctor Who and Torchwood panels at Comic-Con. It was wonderful to celebrate these two shows with fellow fans and thank the creative teams before they move onto other things (perhaps forever, but let’s hope not).

    Personal highlights include the rush of excitement and cheering as the return of the master was revealed, Russell standing up to criticism and strongly saying that it would devalue the death of Ianto to bring him back (as an old comic book fan, whose heroes were constantly being killed and brought back, I cannot agree more), and seeing John Barrowman quiet down and state with genuine and touching concern that he was worried after reading the Children of Earth script that people might not like his character anymore( to which the audience responded strongly that we still did). It was a great time to celebrate a show, especially since finding fellow Who fans in North America is still a bit tricky.

    Enough rambling about me though. Your discussions both on Radio Free Skaro and on Bridging the Rift let me to the follwing questions and ideas (in no particular order):

    -In regards to the death of Ianto, and some of the backlash, one thing I never heard discussed on any Podcast or in the responses was the context of relationships themselves in any drama, especially sci-fi. Specifically, if it is going well then something bad is going to happen. You can always see this strongly in Joss Whedon’s work (Willow and Tara, Buffy and Angel, Wesley and Fred), even in the Whoverse you can look at The Doctor and Rose, Owen and Tosh, not to mention the countless episodes featuring lovers getting together only to be torn apart, mostly with one or both being killed. It is a consistent theme and Ianto and Jack are part of that consistent pattern.

    -I have been fascinated in Torchwood with the ideas of Torchwood 2 and 4. In fact during Torchwood: COE I kept thinking that Mr. Dekker would be revealed to be the “strange man” Jack mentioned as Torchwood 2. Though he wasn’t Scottish, he definitely was strange and seemed like he might be part of the Torchwood institution. Torchwood going missing sounds like a Stargate style team that is off planet exploring. What are your thoughts? Where do you seem them being?

    -Finally, thinking of the trauma Jack has gone through and how it would be hard and somewhat disrespectful to the events of COE to bring him back as the suave adventurer we know made me think that the only way to do that would be to move him a couple of steps back. As in memory loss. Which of course made me think of the still unexplained missing years that made Jack quite the Time Agency. Is it possible that those missing years were in fact to help forget something equally horrible, and that perhaps the Doctor may have “helped” Jack just as he did Donna? Perhaps he might again, bringing Jack back to his old self and making him forget the Children of Earth events. A reset of a sorts. Perhaps this is a silly thought.

    Anyways, I have gone on for a bit here. Thanks for the great podcast. I will remain your fan here in BC, Canada.

    All the very best,

    T

    • Nat says:

      Thanks Todd, excellent and intriguing feedback!

      We’ve decided to leave two episodes gap for rebuttals so everyone has time to listen to the episode before we discuss feedback. Hopefully we’ll have time to talk about your thoughts in episode 4…

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