Bridging the Rift #9: Funny Fan Comics

September 26, 2009

Subwave Network album artWe’re joined by Lydia aka Girl on the Moon, of Doctor Who, Torchwood and UNIT webcomic, The Search For The Truth to discuss Doctor Who Universe funny fan comics.

We also travel back in time two weeks to hear all your theories, fixes and rebuttals about the existence and contents of Doctor Who canon.

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Show Notes

Introductions

@ 1 minute – Lydia introduces herself:

deviantART: http://girl-on-the-moon.deviantart.com/
YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/user/Moongirl42

Rebuttals

2 minutes 30 seconds – We look at feedback to episode 7, our canon episode:

Auld Morality: http://www.drwhoguide.com/unbound01.htm
Minuet in Hell: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minuet_in_Hell
20,000 Leagues Under The Sea: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty_Thousand_Leagues_Under_the_Sea

Main Discussion – Funny Fan Comics

37 minutes 20 seconds – We discuss our favourite funny fan comics:

The Search for the Truth: http://girl-on-the-moon.deviantart.com/gallery/#The-Search-for-the-Truth

The 10 Doctors: http://comics.shipsinker.com/2007/03/10/a-doctor-who-comic-the-10-doctors/

Polvoice:
http://polvoice.deviantart.com/gallery/#Fan-Arts
The Abridged Torchwood Finale: http://polvoice.deviantart.com/art/The-Abridged-Torchwood-Finale-106698688
Caves of Androzani: http://polvoice.deviantart.com/art/Caves-of-Androzani-64594854
The DoctorDonna: http://polvoice.deviantart.com/art/The-DoctorDonna-comic-96854507
Jack Harkness – PotW: http://polvoice.deviantart.com/art/Jack-Harkness-PotW-70763970

Sarcastic Fox:
http://sarcasticfox.deviantart.com/gallery/
Skin of a Killer: http://sarcasticfox.deviantart.com/art/Skin-of-a-Killer-110111607

Doctor Why aka The Worst of the Time Lords: http://community.livejournal.com/doctorwhy/ by lazenich and reaperfox

Torchwood Babiez: http://tw-babiez.livejournal.com/ by spastasmagoria and jigglykat

AnyWho: http://willmeister42.deviantart.com/gallery/#AnyWho-Comics by willmeister42

uWho: http://spune-who.deviantart.com/gallery/ by spune-who

1 hour 8 minutes 40 seconds – What makes a good funny fan comic?

Making a joke out of one line or moment:
AnyWho: Fashion: http://willmeister42.deviantart.com/art/AnyWho-Comic-1-fashion-55950782

Highlighting plot holes and flaws in plans:
Davros Reality Check: http://the-hellish-gnome.deviantart.com/art/Davros-Reality-Check-91983710
Lord President Morbius Poster: http://paulhanley.deviantart.com/art/Lord-President-Morbius-133968785
Who called me Dickhead?http://commander-june.deviantart.com/art/Who-called-me-dickhead-133757590
They’re not sausages: http://puttycad.deviantart.com/art/Dalek-Sec-Theyre-not-sausages-109206378

Surrealism:
Fez Master: http://mogira.deviantart.com/art/FEZ-MASTER-120422776
Nesting Daleks: http://risachantag.deviantart.com/art/Dr-Who-Nesting-Daleks-108693577

Is unrequited love inherently funny?:
Mad Martha: http://girl-on-the-moon.deviantart.com/art/Mad-Martha-83740237
uWho: Gridlock: http://spune-who.deviantart.com/art/uWho-Gridlock-97277985
Bad Wolf Byebye: http://mimi-na.deviantart.com/art/Bad-Wolf-Byebye-90862498
Why I love Donna Noble: http://joeywaii.deviantart.com/art/Why-I-love-Donna-Noble-87543754

Repeating or perverting catch phrases:
Are you my Mummy?: http://circusmonsters.deviantart.com/art/Are-you-my-mummy-80160728
Vader Meets The Empty Child: http://ormsqueak.deviantart.com/art/Vader-meets-the-Empty-Child-19252113
The Sound of Drums: http://nuriwan.deviantart.com/art/The-Sound-of-Drums-85149912

1 hour 21 minutes 27 seconds – Advice to people wanting to start their own funny fan comic:

Hosting sites:
deviantART: http://www.deviantart.com/
LiveJournal: http://www.livejournal.com/

Next Time

1 hour 29 minutes 15 seconds – Next time we’ll be discussing Doctor Who and Torchwood fandom on Second Life.

If you have any comments about our discussions this week, give your feedback in the comments, directed @BridgingTheRift on Twitter or emailed to our GoogleMail address.

Trocking Out

1 hour 30 minutes – Chameleon Circuit – Journey’s End:

In the Doctor Who Magazine reader’s poll, fans who came to Doctor Who with the new series voted Journey’s End the best Doctor Who story of all time, also placing the other series finales in their top 5 and relegating Caves of Androzani to number 10. So as we featured a funny plot synopsis comic of Caves of Androzani, we feel Journey’s End also deserves the treatment.

Luckily Chameleon Circuit have fit the bill perfectly with this track from their debut self-titled album, available from DFTBA records, from iTunes and Amazon MP3. Thanks to DFTBA records and the band for permission to use this track.

http://www.myspace.com/chameleoncircuitmusic


Bridging the Rift #8: Exploring Conventions

September 18, 2009

Subwave Network album artWe’re joined by Chris Burgess of Radio Free Skaro to discuss what goes on at Doctor Who, Torchwood and general science fiction conventions and what’s the best way to experience them.

We also discuss your fan fiction and Russell T Davies feedback, and look at the types of fan creativity seen at conventions.

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Show Notes

Introductions

@ 1 minute – Chris introduces himself:

http://twitter.com/dubbayoo
http://www.radiofreeskaro.com/

Rebuttals

@ 2 minutes 15 seconds – We look at feedback to episode 6, our Fan Fiction discussion.

@ 9 minutes 10 seconds – We enter the feedback loop to discuss follow up comments on Russell T Davies’ attitude towards fandom:

Unreality SF interviews RTD and Benjamin Cook about ‘ming mongs': http://unreality-sf.net/interviews/thewriterstale.html
Victoria Wood ‘But Doctor, we haven’t got the ming mongs!': http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Tbe3W6hWyw

Creativity Corner

@ 30 minutes 10 seconds – We look at the fan creativity on show at conventions:

Costuming / Cosplay:

Tardis Tara (Tara Wheeler)’s high speed video of the cosplayers with the Tardis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ae30q8SQzK4
Doctor Who Cosplay Livejournal Community: http://community.livejournal.com/dw_cosplay/

Fan-made Daleks:

Project Dalek: http://www.projectdalek.co.uk/
Daleks Builders: http://www.dalekbuilders.co.uk/
Dalek Storm: http://www.projectdalek.co.uk/storm/

Fan-made Tardises:

Tardis Tara: http://tardis-tara.livejournal.com/
Tardis Builders: http://tardisboard.proboards.com/

Main Discussion – Doctor Who, Torchwood and Sci-Fi Conventions

@ 44 minutes 40 seconds:

Gallifrey One:
Official site: http://www.gallifreyone.com/
Radio Free Skaro episodes recorded at Gallifrey 20:
http://www.radiofreeskaro.com/2009/02/13/radio-free-skaro-122-live-from-gallifrey/
http://www.radiofreeskaro.com/2009/02/14/radio-free-skaro-interviews-phil-collinson/
http://www.radiofreeskaro.com/2009/02/14/radio-free-skaro-123-shearman-after-dark/
http://www.radiofreeskaro.com/2009/02/15/radio-free-skaro-124-two-scoops-of-hooray/
http://www.radiofreeskaro.com/2009/02/16/radio-free-skaro-125-toclafantastic/

Whooverville:
Official site: http://www.whoovers.org.uk/whooverville.html
The Whoovers fan group: http://www.whoovers.org.uk/
Staggering Stories cover the event: http://blog.staggeringstories.net/?p=347
The Podcasting Panel: http://www.radiofreeskaro.com/2009/09/09/radio-free-skaro-presents-podcest-the-whooverville-podcast-panel/
Nat’s TwitPics: http://twitpic.com/gr3mg

Redemption:
Official Site: http://www.conventions.org.uk/redemption/
LiveJournal Community: http://community.livejournal.com/redemption_con/
Nat’s con report: http://36.livejournal.com/783749.html http://36.livejournal.com/tag/redemption
The Council of Rivendell: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kx7ON43yhI0 (Cabaret sketch)
Ruler of the Universe photos:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/7306297@N07/tags/rsf/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/zarpism/3323430847/in/pool-redemptioncon
http://www.flickr.com/photos/35869534@N06/3318370529/in/pool-redemptioncon
http://www.flickr.com/photos/iain_joanna/3330847826/in/pool-redemptioncon

Other Conventions Mentioned:
Regenerations Swansea: http://www.regenerationsswansea.co.uk/
Who Party Toronto: http://www.whopartytoronto.com/
Hurricane Who: http://www.hurricanewho.com/ http://www.hurricanewho.com/2009/01/bon-voyage-party/
Who at the FAB Cafe: http://fanslikeus.org.uk/fabcafe2.html
Dimensions: http://www.tenthplanetevents.co.uk/dimensions–09-10-c.asp
Bad Wolf: http://www.tenthplanetevents.co.uk/bad-wolf-2010-36-c.asp

Next Time

@ 1 hour 34 minutes 30 seconds – Next time we’ll be discussing Doctor Who universe funny fan art and gag comics.

If you have any comments about our discussions this week, or can tell us more about UK weekend conventions, give your feedback in the comments, directed @BridgingTheRift on twitter or emailed to our GoogleMail address.

Trocking Out

@ 1 hour 35 minutes 15 seconds – We play out with The Stars are Made of Diamonds, written by Alex from Northern Ireland aka One Man, Two Hearts and performed by Sean from Victoria, Australia aka Mr Saxon. You can hear more from them on MySpace:

http://www.myspace.com/onemantwohearts
http://www.myspace.com/mrsaxontrock


Bridging the Rift #7: But is it Canon?

September 12, 2009

Subwave Network album artWe’re joined by Tom Dickinson from The Cloister Room Podcast to discuss what canon is, where the term comes from, and whether the Doctor Who Universe has one, and if not why.

We also hear your defence of Jon Pertwee’s Third Doctor, look at classic series feedback and some extra special fan creativity.

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Show Notes

Introductions

@ 1 minute – Tom introduces himself:

http://twitter.com/tdickinson
http://thecloisterroom.com/
http://twitter.com/TheCloisterRoom
http://www.youtube.com/user/videobloggery

Rebuttals

@ 2 minutes 10 seconds – We look at feedback to episode 5, our Classic Series discussion:

Punk Davros by Julian aka @Braxietel: http://type40productions.deviantart.com/art/Punk-Davros-135497253

Jon Pertwee discussion in the comments: http://bridgingtherift.wordpress.com/2009/08/30/bridging-the-rift-5-appreciating-the-classics/#comments

Creativity Corner

@ 16 minutes 5 seconds – No theme this week, but here’s what caught our eye:

An amazing Tardis cake: http://www.doitmyself.org/2009/08/tardis-cake.html

DailyCrumb’s surreal Matt Smith Eleventh Doctor animation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLgqY2DTs6Q

Main Discussion – Does Doctor Who Have A Canon?

@ 23 minutes – Canon in the Star Wars Universe:

Star Wars Canon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_Expanded_Universe#Continuity_and_canonicity
Canon Wars’ exhaustive exploration of Star Wars canon: http://www.canonwars.com/SWCanon2.html

@ 27 minutes 55 seconds – The blog posts that started this discussion:

Teatime Brutality: http://teatimebrutality.blogspot.com/2009/07/canon-and-sheep-shit-why-we-fight.html
Paul Cornell in 2007: http://www.paulcornell.com/2007/02/canonicity-in-doctor-who.html
Tom’s Cloister Room canon episode: http://thecloisterroom.com/index.php?post_id=515580

@ 30 minutes 42 seconds – Why might the current creative team not want to declare canon?

Virgin New Adventures: http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Virgin_New_Adventures
Big Finish official site: http://www.bigfinish.com/Doctor-Who
Big Finish writers: http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Big_Finish_Doctor_Who_Audio_Dramas
RTD’s interview with AVClub.com: http://www.avclub.com/articles/russell-t-davies,30869/

@ 57 minutes – Where the fannish term ‘canon’ comes from:

Ronald Knox: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Knox
Fanlore: Sherlock Holmes: http://67.23.2.53/wiki/Sherlock_Holmes
Knox’s original essay: http://www.diogenes-club.com/studies.htm
The Sacred Writings of Dr John H. Watson: http://www.librarything.com/work/2737484

Bonus link!: http://www.qwantz.com/index.php?comic=291 ;)

Next Time

@ 1 hour 25 minutes 50 seconds – Next time we’ll be discussing Doctor Who conventions and get togethers.

If you disagree with our opinions on canon, or have any theories of your own, or if you have more classic series or Pertwee feedback or more punk daleks, give your feedback in the comments, directed @BridgingTheRift on twitter or emailed to our GoogleMail address.

Trocking Out

@ 1 hour 26 minutes 30 seconds – We play out with a Classic Series trock song by our guest’s new band Blinovich (see Mawdryn Undead)! Exploring the ending to 1986’s The Trial of a Time Lord, it’s The Ultimate Foe! Check out Tom’s YouTube channel VideoBloggery for the music video and another (very funny) trock song:

The Ultimate Foe: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMMsuhwZ7Bo
Exterminate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9NLWNqC_-g
VideoBloggery: http://www.youtube.com/user/videobloggery


Bridging the Rift #6: The World of Fan Fiction

September 4, 2009

Subwave Network album artWe’re joined by Spider aka Spiderine on LiveJournal to discuss the different types Doctor Who Universe fan fiction and where to find them, and the legal position of transformative works.

We also look at your feedback for our Russell T Davies episode and travel back in time to episode 5 to hear the classic series Creativity Corner we recorded with Steven.

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Show Notes

Introductions

@ 1 minute – We introduce Torchwood and New Series Doctor Who fan fiction writer Spider:
http://spiderine.livejournal.com/
http://twitter.com/spiderine

News

@ 2 minutes 42 seconds – Nat will be at the Whooverville one day Doctor Who convention at the Midland Railway Centre near Ripley in Derbyshire this Sunday – that’s the 6th of September – if you’re attending, Nat would love to hear from you:
http://www.whoovers.org.uk/whooverville.html
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=51032158444
http://twitter.com/thirtysix (Nat’s Twitter)

Creativity Corner

@ 4 minutes 17 seconds – We travel back to episode 5 where we were joined by Steven from Radio Free Skaro to discuss the classic series. As we overran, this is the discussion we recorded about classic series fan creativity:

Fan art:

mimi-na‘s classic who fan art:
http://mimi-na.deviantart.com/art/Doctor-s-Girls-46247500
http://mimi-na.deviantart.com/art/Doctor-s-Boys-58481472
http://mimi-na.deviantart.com/art/Monsters-of-Whodom-68755440
http://mimi-na.deviantart.com/art/omg-DOCTORZ-46815474

Fan art of jlfletch, often used for signings:
http://jlfletch.deviantart.com/gallery/#Doctor-Who

Fan art of harnois75 (featured in past Doctor Who Storybooks):
http://harnois75.deviantart.com/art/Gell-Guards-123672466
http://harnois75.deviantart.com/art/The-Keys-of-Marinus-Island-123722188
http://harnois75.deviantart.com/art/Marco-Polo-on-the-mountain-123721632
http://harnois75.deviantart.com/art/Genesis-2-125271032
http://harnois75.deviantart.com/art/Invasion-of-the-Dinosaurs-123868644
http://harnois75.deviantart.com/art/Whomobile-chase-125084726
(and many more)

Fan videos:

Babelcolour‘s tributes to the Doctors etc:
http://www.youtube.com/user/babelcolour
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCZhlEdGIm0 (all stories 1963 to 2008, Eurythmics Sweet Dreams mash up)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoxQKGDPtoo (the First Doctor, Back in 64, the Ruttles)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Xm26StUZVY (the Second Doctor, The Littlest Hobo)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENg0N-EC07 (the Third Doctor, Hero, Bonnie Tyler)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQfz48VJk1U (the Fifth Doctor, the Kinks Cricket)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu2061ieHSc (the Sixth Doctor, My Coat of Many Colours)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9BqnxGp4HA (the Eighth Doctor, English Man in New York)

Farmergeddon71‘s Doctor Who spoofs:
http://www.youtube.com/user/farmergeddon71
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lmh8xeX6SG0 (Flight of the Darned)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZ8bZgWEoaY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe3e5kmtduc (Five Doctors spoof parts 1 and 2)

Rebuttals

Correction: In episode 5 Nat stated that Harold S. recommended Captain Jack and the TARDIS by Rhodri James when in fact he recommended a filk of the same folk song, called Captain Jack and the Tardis by a filker called Crystal Paul. We apologise for confusing these two Doctor Who filks to the same tune.

@ 14 minutes 50 seconds – We look at your feedback to episode 4 where we were joined by Kate Orman to discuss fandom’s relationship with Russell T Davies:

Three suggestions for accessories for the Russell T Davies action figure featured in Creativity Corner:
http://russelh.deviantart.com/art/RTD-fig-81867715

The creator of the RTD figure, russellh is keen to hear your suggestions for accessories and may include them in an improved version! If you have more, leave yours in the comments.

Anattendantlord provides us with context for Rona Munro’s comments on romance in Doctor Who being lazy writing:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/2009/aug/09/rona-munro-edinburgh-festival

We discuss Julian aka Braxietel’s comments about whether we were too lenient on Russell T Davies.

Spider gives her criticisms of RTD.

Main Discussion

@ 34 minutes – We discuss what fan fiction is, explain some common types of fics, explore Doctor Who Universe pairings and stories, and discuss disclaimers and legalities of fanfiction versus published works:

Fanfic recommendation communities/fanfiction communities on livejournal:

http://community.livejournal.com/Torchwood_house/
http://community.livejournal.com/Torch_wood
http://community.livejournal.com/Torchwood_three/ (newsletter)
http://community.livejournal.com/doctorwho/
http://community.livejournal.com/who_daily/ (newsletter)

Archives:

A Teaspoon and an Open Mind: http://www.whofic.com/
Fanfiction.net: http://www.fanfiction.net/

The legal position of fan fiction:

Organization for Transformative Works (OTW): http://transformativeworks.org/
Fair Use: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use

Fan fiction mentioned:

The Mascot: (Steven/Hi Fi fanfiction) http://www.whofic.com/viewstory.php?sid=23275
Omnijackual: http://community.livejournal.com/omnijaxual/
Copperbadge aka sam_storyteller: http://sam-storyteller.livejournal.com/

Next time

1 hour 34 minutes 15 seconds – Next episode we’ll be discussing whether or not Doctor Who has a true ‘canon’, what canon is and what’s included in it.

Trocking Out

1 hour 35 minutes 45 seconds – We play out with Donna’s Song by trock band Exerminate! from Pennsylvania, USA. You can hear more from the band at:
http://www.myspace.com/exterminatemusic


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