Bridging the Rift #8: Exploring Conventions

Subwave Network album artWe’re joined by Chris Burgess of Radio Free Skaro to discuss what goes on at Doctor Who, Torchwood and general science fiction conventions and what’s the best way to experience them.

We also discuss your fan fiction and Russell T Davies feedback, and look at the types of fan creativity seen at conventions.

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Show Notes


@ 1 minute – Chris introduces himself:


@ 2 minutes 15 seconds – We look at feedback to episode 6, our Fan Fiction discussion.

@ 9 minutes 10 seconds – We enter the feedback loop to discuss follow up comments on Russell T Davies’ attitude towards fandom:

Unreality SF interviews RTD and Benjamin Cook about ‘ming mongs’:
Victoria Wood ‘But Doctor, we haven’t got the ming mongs!’:

Creativity Corner

@ 30 minutes 10 seconds – We look at the fan creativity on show at conventions:

Costuming / Cosplay:

Tardis Tara (Tara Wheeler)’s high speed video of the cosplayers with the Tardis:
Doctor Who Cosplay Livejournal Community:

Fan-made Daleks:

Project Dalek:
Daleks Builders:
Dalek Storm:

Fan-made Tardises:

Tardis Tara:
Tardis Builders:

Main Discussion – Doctor Who, Torchwood and Sci-Fi Conventions

@ 44 minutes 40 seconds:

Gallifrey One:
Official site:
Radio Free Skaro episodes recorded at Gallifrey 20:

Official site:
The Whoovers fan group:
Staggering Stories cover the event:
The Podcasting Panel:
Nat’s TwitPics:

Official Site:
LiveJournal Community:
Nat’s con report:
The Council of Rivendell: (Cabaret sketch)
Ruler of the Universe photos:

Other Conventions Mentioned:
Regenerations Swansea:
Who Party Toronto:
Hurricane Who:
Who at the FAB Cafe:
Bad Wolf:

Next Time

@ 1 hour 34 minutes 30 seconds – Next time we’ll be discussing Doctor Who universe funny fan art and gag comics.

If you have any comments about our discussions this week, or can tell us more about UK weekend conventions, give your feedback in the comments, directed @BridgingTheRift on twitter or emailed to our GoogleMail address.

Trocking Out

@ 1 hour 35 minutes 15 seconds – We play out with The Stars are Made of Diamonds, written by Alex from Northern Ireland aka One Man, Two Hearts and performed by Sean from Victoria, Australia aka Mr Saxon. You can hear more from them on MySpace:

6 Responses to Bridging the Rift #8: Exploring Conventions

  1. anattendantlord says:

    just started listening to this one. quick point of pedantry – I might be using an out of date definition, but I always thought “rebuttal” meant the act of refuting someone’s claim, or disproving it, or claiming to disprove it. So it always feels odd for me to read “Rebuttal” in your feedback section, when the feedback might not be refuting or trying to refute anything.

    Only noticed this when in BTR 7 there was reference – in the podcast I think – to Tom Dickinson’s “rebuttal” of what I thought was a spot-on post by Teatime Brutality. Which gave me the impression that you guys thought Tom D had refuted the post, and agreed with him.

    Of course, as already said, this could just be me having an out-of-date dictionary in my head. Sorry, this is a bit of a rubbish comment, isn’t it?

    • Nat says:

      We called it Rebuttals in the hope that people would disagree and debate with us, keeping the discussion going. In reality, we’re slightly more likely to get people agreeing with us or developing points we touched on.

      Tom’s Cloister Room episode disagreed with pretty much every point made in the Tea Time blog post, which is why we invited him on as I was mostly in agreement with Tea Time’s point of view…

  2. Hi Katrina & Nat.
    Thanks for another great show.

  3. Keir Hardie says:

    Here’s my take on the ming-mong thing: I’d heard that Rusty got it off from The Moff, although The Moff never used it publicly until RTD did, but by the sound of it (in the podcast) The Moff got it from someone else. I know the Victoria Wood explaination and have always thought it was disingenous. They obviously found it a funny word – why out of all the words in the very extended Whoniverse did they pick that one? What in particular appealed about that rather than anyone else? I can’t imagine that the mong thing is a complete coincidence at all. I have to think that what appealed about the word, what set it apart from other funny words, was a “ha ha, we can call people mongs but if they challenge us about this we can say ‘no, it’s a reference to a Victoria Wood sketch, so you’ve no cause for complaint, don’t you feel an idiot now!'” factor, like a racist schoolboy using the word ‘snigger’ in what he thinks is a clever way. I think whoever first originated it knew exactly what they were doing!

    I went to school in Manchester too, I don’t know if that effects my perception any. Victoria Wood grew up in that part of the world, someone should interrogate her! She’s never had and suspicion pointed at her over this because she seems so sweet!

  4. Sami says:

    Throught I’d give you some feedback on cosplay/costuming part of your show as a cosplayer myself.

    I’ve been cosplaying for now 3 years, regularly at cons in Australia, starting in the anime side of things (I’ve made about 19 costume during that time) but I started cosplaying from Doctor Who and sci fi last year, I’ve now made 3 Doctor Who related costumes and I’m in the progress now of putting together another 2 (and maybe more) for when I’ll be going to Gallifrey next year as well as the UK for 6 months.

    For me, I call myself a Doctor Who cosplayer, because I not only just make the costumes (depending on the costume I’ll either make it completely handmade, half handmade or it will assembled/altered) but I act as the character in photos and mainly on stage in skits that I’ve usually written myself, or together with my cosplay partners/friends.
    So that, for me, is where costuming and cosplay become two different things. This is just my opinion, but I like to think of it like this:
    Cosplay is costume plus roleplay.
    Costuming is just costume not roleplay.
    The ‘play’ part of the word ‘cosplay’ is all about the roleplay, acting like the character. Without the play, cosplay just becomes ‘cos’ which is just costume.
    Hope that makes sense.

    Cosplaying isn’t always of the highest quality, we all start out somewhere, but I believe just because we identify themselves as cosplayers doesn’t mean we don’t make our costumes just as well as people who identify themselves as costumers only.
    It’s all down to the person and often the costume itself… because sometimes Doctor Who costumes simply don’t need things made from scratch, say Jenny or Sally Sparrow, where as costume like various Doctors, or for me… Donna, since I couldn’t find a brown leather jacket anywhere so I decided to make it, need a little more actual sewing skills to pull off well.
    And there’s also the topic of wigs, and how often cosplayers with a great costume, fail to wear them if their hair isn’t right for the character and how it often ruins the costume overall (just a little pet peeve of mine)

    Anyway, I’ve rambled far too long, so I’ll leave it at that. I’d be up for some discussion on a cosplay show, but I don’t know how much help I’ll be being that I haven’t cosplayed Doctor Who for long and I haven’t attended any US/UK conventions yet.

  5. Sami says:

    sorry forgot to mention in the above quote… thanks for responding to my feedback about fanfic and adric in this show. was really interesting listening to that discussion, thanks muchly

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