Bridging the Rift #13: Cursed Episode Thirteen

Recorded on Friday the 13th after various failings, we return late and joined by no one but ourselves to record our cursed episode 13. We’re sorry, we’re so so sorry.

However we make the best of it by looking at new trock, comics, art and fiction that caught our eye, hear your feedback to episode 11, and open the floor to answer some tricky listener questions.

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Show Notes

News

@ 2 minutes 10 seconds – We fill you in on some reason fan creativity news:

New Torchwood Babiez comic instalment:
http://tw-babiez.livejournal.com/10954.html

Rich Morris comics projects:
http://comics.shipsinker.com/graphic-novels/
http://comics.shipsinker.com/the-ten-doctors/
http://comics.shipsinker.com/category/dr-who/forever_janette/
http://comics.shipsinker.com/category/dr-who/stalker_of_norfolk/

Doctor Who Fragments, 1 page comics project:
http://doctorwhofragments.deviantart.com/
http://doctorwhofragments.deviantart.com/gallery/

Chameleon Circuit live gig:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWFERC_5DNU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=428Y0i49hkM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNb906saXi8
(Search ‘Chartjackers gig’ for more!)

Chameleon Circuit on Stickaid 2009:
Performance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAzQNBv0d1U
Interview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMbqIFyyrCE
Quiz: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWgw14MG_6w

Tom Milsom’s Trockstuff EP released for free download by DFTBA records:
http://dftba.com/shop/pages/Free-Downloads.html

Feedback

@ 9 minutes 45 seconds – We look at your feedback to episode 11 in which we discussed Guilty Pleasures and Caricatures:

DTDStudio Caricatures: http://dtdstudio.deviantart.com/

LeagueOf1: http://leagueof1.deviantart.com/
Alien-Dalek Hybrid: http://leagueof1.deviantart.com/art/DALEK-ALIEN-HYBRID-final-136089165
Eve versus Davros: http://leagueof1.deviantart.com/art/EVE-Vs-DAVROS-138739159
Perils of Potluck: http://leagueof1.deviantart.com/gallery/#PERILS-OF-POT-LUCK

The Sketchian Adventures: http://sketchians.blogspot.com/

Creativity Corner

@ 40 minutes – We share some fan creativity that caught our eye recently:

Katrina’s fan fiction choice:
Borrowed Time (Warning: NC-17 slash fiction): http://blackfic.livejournal.com/34823.html
LJ TARDIS Big Bang Contest: http://copperbadge.livejournal.com/2791316.html

Draculasaurus’s Tardis SPOILER art: http://draculasaurus.deviantart.com/art/SPOILERS-look-away-141062989

Tardis interiors fan art:
http://greyfin.deviantart.com/art/in-her-best-light-142951092
http://draculasaurus.deviantart.com/art/console-143224850
http://sheldonsands.deviantart.com/art/Space-Arse-142927482

grekwood Tardis interior diorama:
http://grekwood.deviantart.com/art/Dr-Who-DOD-2009-rear-view-142916450
http://grekwood.deviantart.com/art/The-Doctor-and-the-Master-142834924

Crafty TARDIS: http://community.livejournal.com/crafty_tardis/

Action figure customisations:
Decrepit Master by batmanmarch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wt-RbfnEV6o
FrasierDalek’s amazing custom sculpts: http://frasierdalek.deviantart.com/gallery/#Sculptures

Halloween funny fan comic: http://karlarei2003.deviantart.com/art/Halloween-for-Doctor-Who-141975691

Torchwood: Consequences collection:
http://denofgeek.com/comics/359110/torchwood_consequences_book_review.html
http://www.bbcshop.com/Science-Fiction/Torchwood-Consequences/invt/9781846077845

Main Discussion

@ 51 minutes 15 seconds – We answer your questions, submitted by Twitter:

Braxietel: How do reconcile Ace’s death and departures in the Comics/books and audio?

sjcaustenite: What about Jack’s missing 2 years?

Braxietel: Ian Levine, God or Git? (same could probably be asked about Lawrence Miles)

MrChinn: ‘Out of their evil, must come something good’ from Genesis. Is the Doctor arguing for non intervention?

TheGreenMoon (deviantART): Is the Doctor being selfish in Blink by making Sally Sparrow do the work when he could just wait a few decades?

Braxietel: Will Paterson Joseph ever get to be the Doctor?

Braxietel: Will @BridgingTheRift ever cover fan films/fan edits and the like?

We also comment on recent discussions about the artistic merit of time lord rock and fan music.

Next Time

@ 1 hour 20 minutes 45 seconds – Next time we’re still intending to discuss Fandom versus Rose Tyler.

If you have any feedback about any of the topics we’ve discussed, please leave comments on this blog post, send audio feedback under three minutes (and preferably with a transcript) to our GoogleMail address, or direct short comments @BridgingTheRift on Twitter.

Trocking Out

@ 1 hour 21 minutes 50 seconds – We play out with New Earth from Tom Milsom’s new Trockstuff EP released for free download from DFTBA.com – Thanks to DFTBA records for kind permission to use this track. Tom also has two non-trock albums which are available now:
http://tommilsom.com/
http://dftba.com/shop/pages/Free-Downloads.html
http://tommilsom.com/buy-my-stuff.html
http://dftba.com/shop/products/Painfully-Mainstream-[CD].html

Bridging the Rift #12: Costuming and Cosplay

We’re joined by Johanna Mead, Masquerade Director for the Gallifrey 21 convention in Los Angeles, to discuss Doctor Who Universe costuming and cosplay.

We also look at creative reactions to the new Doctor Who logo and insignia, and look at your feedback to episode 10 regarding Second Life and ‘ming mongs’.

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Show Notes

Introductions

@ 1 minute – We announce that, as of this episode, Bridging the Rift is moving to releasing episodes once every two weeks.

Johanna introduces herself:

Personal Site: http://www.skaro.com/
Twitter: http://twitter.com/britgeekgrrl
Bio: http://www.skaro.com/personal2.html
Costumes: http://www.skaro.com/costume_album.html

Time Travel – Episode Ten: Second Life

@ 3 minutes 10 seconds – We look at your feedback to our Second Life discussion:

Draculasaurus explores Second Life: http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/318/dracincardiff001.jpg

@ 6 minutes 15 seconds – We enter the feedback loop to discuss your comments on our comments on your comments in episode 10 on our comments in episode 8, with more on the Possibility Generator and some final words on the ‘ming mong’ question.

Creativity Corner – The New Logo

@ 9 minutes 10 seconds – We talk about our take on the new Doctor Who logo and insignia.

@ 15 minutes 55 seconds – We look at fandom’s reactions to the logo:

Gallifrey Base: http://gallifreybase.com/forum/showthread.php?p=800315
Who Daily: http://community.livejournal.com/who_daily/343253.html
Braxiatel Collection: http://braxiatel.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=art&action=display&thread=126

Lensflare:
Attack of the Lens Flare! by Vicar on Gallifrey Base: http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb298/sleep2much/newlogo.jpg
‘Improved’ by Braxietel: http://twitpic.com/kkrrw
Wildthyme on Braxiatel collection posted a screen grab from the Colin Baker opening to prove that lens flare’s traditional: http://www.doctorwhoworld.org.uk/Images/sitegraphics/80%27slgo.jpg
Vectorised without lensflare: http://thegraphicstation.deviantart.com/art/Doctor-Who-3-D-logo-2010-139574827

Parodies:
Darkwing Duck insignia by ManOfBats: http://community.livejournal.com/ihasatardis/1926626.html
‘NAFF’ insignia by Tempus31: http://gallifreybase.com/forum/member.php?u=4752
‘Rejected designs’ by redscharlach: http://redscharlach.livejournal.com/193212.html

Vortex of Mirth:
Logo comic: http://vortex-of-mirth.livejournal.com/183911.html
Other Doctor Who strips:
http://vortex-of-mirth.livejournal.com/173883.html
http://vortex-of-mirth.livejournal.com/167259.html
http://vortex-of-mirth.livejournal.com/181696.html

Improvements and Variations:
Luke Pietnik’s alternative colours: http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i224/lukedalek/swatches.jpg
Swain used the colours from the current logo: http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/173/newlogo51222.jpg
AnthariaJack produced an attractive Nebula background: http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/715/nebula.jpg
Paradox Machine altered perspective: http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp326/Slamu259/logocutoutblackperspective.jpg
(All from Gallifrey Base)

Honourable Mention:
Logo Totem by jlfletch: http://jlfletch.deviantart.com/art/Logo-Totem-140077938

Braxiatel Collection Logo Challenge: http://braxiatel.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=art&action=display&thread=127
annagranfors: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2588/4010009259_b5d3a5987b_b.jpg
Siskoid ‘Bad Wolf’: http://www.siskoid.com/newsdwlogo-badwolf.jpg

Main Discussion – Costuming and Cosplay

@ 21 minutes – Johanna tells us about her role as Gallifrey Masquerade Director and maintainer of the LiveJournal DW_cosplay community:

Gallifrey 21 Masquerade: http://gallifreyone.com/masquerade.php
LiveJournal dw_cosplay: http://community.livejournal.com/dw_cosplay/profile/

@ 23 minutes 13 seconds – We look at the difference between costuming and cosplay.

@ 27 minutes – We talk about Doctor Who and Torchwood costuming and cosplay, and resources out there for people who want to make or wear costumes:

Costumes mentioned:
The White Robot: http://www.gallifreyanembassy.org/vortex/?q=node/631 http://www.gallifreyanembassy.com/vortex/?q=node/632
The Dalekettes: http://io9.com/5205477/meet-the-dalekettes-a-gang-of-cosplayers-after-our-hearts http://io9.com/5358037/diy-doctor-who-craft-projects
The Weeping Angel at Whooverville: http://twitpic.com/gp5qw
The Family of Blood Scarecrow at Whooverville: http://twitpic.com/gp5su
Johanna’s costume album: http://www.skaro.com/costume_album.html
Nat’s non-Doctor Who costumes: http://jinkies36.deviantart.com/gallery/#Costumes

Costuming resources:
DW_cosplay community: http://community.livejournal.com/dw_cosplay/
Cosplay.com – place for anime & other costumers: http://www.cosplay.com/
Source for wigs, wonderflex and other materials: http://www.cosworx.com/
The any-day-now DW costuming archive: http://www.prydonacademy.com/

Some FANTASIC breakdowns of individual Doctor costumes by “Bob”, LJ user “wulfae” shared on the LJ community:
1st Doctor: http://community.livejournal.com/dw_cosplay/135514.html
2nd Doctor: http://community.livejournal.com/dw_cosplay/150399.html
3rd Doctor: http://community.livejournal.com/dw_cosplay/138274.html
4th Doctor: http://community.livejournal.com/dw_cosplay/138698.html
5th Doctor: http://community.livejournal.com/dw_cosplay/140134.html
6th Doctor: http://community.livejournal.com/dw_cosplay/141322.html
7th Doctor: http://community.livejournal.com/dw_cosplay/143161.html
8th Doctor: http://community.livejournal.com/dw_cosplay/144837.html
9th Doctor: http://community.livejournal.com/dw_cosplay/145644.html
10th Doctor: http://community.livejournal.com/dw_cosplay/97311.html
Old-School Cyberman: http://community.livejournal.com/dw_cosplay/150843.html
A detailed reference of the question marks on the Doctors’ shirts: http://community.livejournal.com/dw_cosplay/261739.html

Ace’s M1 Bomber Jacket Breakdown: http://community.livejournal.com/dw_cosplay/369363.html (by LJ user warmcanofcoke)

The Doctor Who Scarf: http://www.doctorwhoscarf.com/

Johanna’s costuming tips:
If you’re going to buy ONE book to learn how to start sewing, I recommend “Singer Sewing Basics”. It’s a skinny blue hardback, which you can find in most used-book stores (don’t bother buying new, it’s ubiquitous) for about $5 or $6. Singer has a whole series of sewing books, of course, focusing on different topics, including “sewing with special fabrics” and that sort of thing.

And, for the construction-oriented person, you can’t miss a visit to http://www.thistothat.com/ – a great website for determining which adhesives will NOT melt the panels in your Dalek costume.

Next Time

@ 1 hour 13 minutes 45 seconds – Next time our discussion topic will be Fandom versus Rose Tyler.

If you have any feedback about any of the topics we’ve discussed, please leave comments on the blog at http://bridgingtherift.wordpress.com/ send audio feedback under three minutes to our GoogleMail address, or direct short comments @BridgingTheRift on Twitter.

Trocking Out

1 hour 14 minutes 20 seconds – We were hoping to trock out with a song about costumes, but we couldn’t really think of anything appropriate. The closest we got was possibly the most extravagant ‘costume’ to ever appear in Doctor Who – The Cyber-King, as ‘worn’ by Miss Hartigan!

Giant Robot by Time Agency: http://www.myspace.com/timeagency/

Bridging the Rift #11: Guilty Pleasures

We’re joined by Warren Frey, one of the founding members of Radio Free Skaro to discuss our Doctor Who, Torchwood and Sarah Jane Adventures guilty pleasures – that’s episodes and plot elements we know aren’t very good but we love anyway.

We also revisit our Funny Fan Comics episode, hear your feedback and talk about our favourite Doctor Who caricatures.

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Introductions

@ 1 minute – Warren introduces himself:

http://twitter.com/freyburg
http://www.radiofreeskaro.com/
Warren also blogs for the Canadian Space channel: http://www.spacecast.com/

Time Travel – Episode Nine: Funny Fan Comics

@ 3 minutes – We look at feedback to episode 5, our Classic Series discussion:

uWho: Matt Smith’s 1st Line (Spoiler!): http://spune-who.deviantart.com/art/uWho-Matt-s-First-Line-139219043

The Sketchian Adentures: http://sketchians.blogspot.com/
Aside 2: Memoirs From The Time War: http://sketchians.blogspot.com/2009/02/aside-2-memoirs-from-time-war-and.html

Creativity Corner – Caricatures

@ 23 minutes 30 seconds – We talk about our favourite Doctor Who universe caricatures and caricaturists:

DTDStudio:
http://dtdstudio.deviantart.com/art/Desktop-Matt-Smith-in-Tardis-109466070
http://dtdstudio.deviantart.com/art/Desktop-Tennant-Tardis-Vandal-109743005
http://dtdstudio.deviantart.com/art/Dr-who-Matt-and-Jack-Torchwood-131212786
http://dtdstudio.deviantart.com/art/Matt-Smith-Dr-Emo-109198133

kgreene
http://kgreene.deviantart.com/art/DOCTOR-WHO-FINISH-65672762

League of One:
http://leagueof1.deviantart.com/gallery/#DOCTOR-WHO
http://leagueof1.deviantart.com/gallery/#DR-WHO-ANIMATED
http://leagueof1.deviantart.com/art/DALEK-V-FACEHUGGER-135974778

HitlersBrain:
http://hitlersbrain.deviantart.com/art/The-Doctor-and-Rose-Tyler-35721504

Main Discussion – Guilty Pleasures

@ 32 minutes 20 seconds – Doctor Who:

The bottom 50 in the DWM Mighty 200 poll: http://lifetheuniverseandcombom.blogspot.com/2009/09/dwm-mighty-200-151-200.html

@ 1 hour 7 minutes 12 seconds – Torchwood:

TV.com’s least popular Torchwood: http://www.tv.com/torchwood/show/50470/episode.html?season=Top+Episodes&tag=list_header;paginator;Top+Episodes

Thrilling Torchwood Tales: http://acegirl.deviantart.com/art/THRILLING-TORCHWOOD-TALES-58591696 (Cyberwoman fan art by acegirl)

@ 1 hour 21 minutes 42 seconds – Sarah Jane Adventures

@ 1 hour 31 minutes 24 seconds – K9 and Company

Next Time

@ 1 hour 34 minutes 30 seconds – Next time we’ll be talking about Doctor Who universe cosplay and costuming.

If you have any feedback about anything we’ve discussed this episode, any guilty pleasures of your own or any caricaturists we overlooked, please leave them in the comments, directed @BridgingTheRift on twitter or emailed to our GoogleMail address.

Trocking Out

@ 1 hour 35 minutes 50 seconds – We trock out with a song about the Cat Nuns from the series two episode New Earth, Feline Fettle by trock band Harmonies in Whooville from Derry, New Hampshire, USA. You can hear more from Harmonies In Whooville from their profile at http://www.myspace.com/harmoniesinwhoville

Bridging the Rift #10: Fandom on Second Life

We’re joined by Tim Drury from Living A Second Life and Tim’s Take On podcasts to discuss Doctor Who universe fandom on Second Life.

We also look back to our Conventions episode to hear your opinions on Cosplay, Costuming and the Doctor Who insiders’ use of the term ‘Ming Mongs’.

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Introductions

@ 1 minute – Tim introduces himself:

Tim’s Twitter: http://twitter.com/tdrury
Living A Second Life Podcast: http://tdrury.libsyn.com/
Tim’s Take On Podcast: http://tto.mypodcast.com/

Time Travel – Episode Eight: Conventions

@ 6 minutes 10 seconds – Sami gives an opinion on the difference between cosplaying and costuming.

@ 12 minutes 48 seconds – Tim talks about his convention experiences:

The Hub Torchwood Convention: http://www.massiveevents.co.uk/thehub/

@ 19 minutes 56 seconds – Keir Hardy weighs in on the Doctor Who production team’s use of the term ‘ming mongs’:

Victoria Wood ‘But Doctor, we haven’t got the ming mongs!’: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Tbe3W6hWyw

Urban Dictionary definitions:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ming-mong
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ming+mong
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ming+mang
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=mong

YouTube Ming Mong discussion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbr7_DIdG-Q by StuffTheFrankie

Main Discussion – Second Life

@ 32 minutes 21 seconds – We discuss the various Doctor Who universe locations, characters, props and activities available for Doctor Who and Torchwood fans to enjoy in Second Life:

Second Life: http://secondlife.com/
The Doctor Who Experience & Cardiff, Katrina Website: http://www.apc-net.org/
Video promo for New Gallifrey & Zenobia Station: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPms0LozvQE by V1ctor1st

Pictures:
Nat’s Podshock Meet-Up Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/28538156@N06/sets/72157622466616376/
Tim’s Doctor Who Experience Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tdrury/sets/72157622466086500/

Podshock Meet Ups:
Blog post for the last meet up: http://www.gallifreyanembassy.org/vortex/?q=node/593
Video introduction for the last meet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=947zeKPOEJE

Next Time

@ 1 hour 23 minutes 30 seconds – Next time we’ll be talking about our Doctor Who, Torchwood and Sarah Jane Adventures guilty pleasures. Episodes that we know aren’t very good but we love anyway!

If you have any feedback about anything we’ve discussed this episode please leave it in the comments, directed @BridgingTheRift on twitter or emailed to our GoogleMail address.

Trocking Out

@ 1 hour 33 minutes 10 seconds – We trock out with a song about the series 2 episode The Girl In The Fireplace, Clockwork by British trock band Turn Left. Thanks to Georgia from the band for kind permission to use this song. You can find out more about Turn Left on their profile at http://www.myspace.com/thegeekchicband

Bridging the Rift #9: Funny Fan Comics

We’re joined by Lydia aka Girl on the Moon, of Doctor Who, Torchwood and UNIT webcomic, The Search For The Truth to discuss Doctor Who Universe funny fan comics.

We also travel back in time two weeks to hear all your theories, fixes and rebuttals about the existence and contents of Doctor Who canon.

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Show Notes

Introductions

@ 1 minute – Lydia introduces herself:

deviantART: http://girl-on-the-moon.deviantart.com/
YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/user/Moongirl42

Rebuttals

2 minutes 30 seconds – We look at feedback to episode 7, our canon episode:

Auld Morality: http://www.drwhoguide.com/unbound01.htm
Minuet in Hell: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minuet_in_Hell
20,000 Leagues Under The Sea: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty_Thousand_Leagues_Under_the_Sea

Main Discussion – Funny Fan Comics

37 minutes 20 seconds – We discuss our favourite funny fan comics:

The Search for the Truth: http://girl-on-the-moon.deviantart.com/gallery/#The-Search-for-the-Truth

The 10 Doctors: http://comics.shipsinker.com/2007/03/10/a-doctor-who-comic-the-10-doctors/

Polvoice:
http://polvoice.deviantart.com/gallery/#Fan-Arts
The Abridged Torchwood Finale: http://polvoice.deviantart.com/art/The-Abridged-Torchwood-Finale-106698688
Caves of Androzani: http://polvoice.deviantart.com/art/Caves-of-Androzani-64594854
The DoctorDonna: http://polvoice.deviantart.com/art/The-DoctorDonna-comic-96854507
Jack Harkness – PotW: http://polvoice.deviantart.com/art/Jack-Harkness-PotW-70763970

Sarcastic Fox:
http://sarcasticfox.deviantart.com/gallery/
Skin of a Killer: http://sarcasticfox.deviantart.com/art/Skin-of-a-Killer-110111607

Doctor Why aka The Worst of the Time Lords: http://community.livejournal.com/doctorwhy/ by lazenich and reaperfox

Torchwood Babiez: http://tw-babiez.livejournal.com/ by spastasmagoria and jigglykat

AnyWho: http://willmeister42.deviantart.com/gallery/#AnyWho-Comics by willmeister42

uWho: http://spune-who.deviantart.com/gallery/ by spune-who

1 hour 8 minutes 40 seconds – What makes a good funny fan comic?

Making a joke out of one line or moment:
AnyWho: Fashion: http://willmeister42.deviantart.com/art/AnyWho-Comic-1-fashion-55950782

Highlighting plot holes and flaws in plans:
Davros Reality Check: http://the-hellish-gnome.deviantart.com/art/Davros-Reality-Check-91983710
Lord President Morbius Poster: http://paulhanley.deviantart.com/art/Lord-President-Morbius-133968785
Who called me Dickhead?: http://commander-june.deviantart.com/art/Who-called-me-dickhead-133757590
They’re not sausages: http://puttycad.deviantart.com/art/Dalek-Sec-Theyre-not-sausages-109206378

Surrealism:
Fez Master: http://mogira.deviantart.com/art/FEZ-MASTER-120422776
Nesting Daleks: http://risachantag.deviantart.com/art/Dr-Who-Nesting-Daleks-108693577

Is unrequited love inherently funny?:
Mad Martha: http://girl-on-the-moon.deviantart.com/art/Mad-Martha-83740237
uWho: Gridlock: http://spune-who.deviantart.com/art/uWho-Gridlock-97277985
Bad Wolf Byebye: http://mimi-na.deviantart.com/art/Bad-Wolf-Byebye-90862498
Why I love Donna Noble: http://joeywaii.deviantart.com/art/Why-I-love-Donna-Noble-87543754

Repeating or perverting catch phrases:
Are you my Mummy?: http://circusmonsters.deviantart.com/art/Are-you-my-mummy-80160728
Vader Meets The Empty Child: http://ormsqueak.deviantart.com/art/Vader-meets-the-Empty-Child-19252113
The Sound of Drums: http://nuriwan.deviantart.com/art/The-Sound-of-Drums-85149912

1 hour 21 minutes 27 seconds – Advice to people wanting to start their own funny fan comic:

Hosting sites:
deviantART: http://www.deviantart.com/
LiveJournal: http://www.livejournal.com/

Next Time

1 hour 29 minutes 15 seconds – Next time we’ll be discussing Doctor Who and Torchwood fandom on Second Life.

If you have any comments about our discussions this week, give your feedback in the comments, directed @BridgingTheRift on Twitter or emailed to our GoogleMail address.

Trocking Out

1 hour 30 minutes – Chameleon Circuit – Journey’s End:

In the Doctor Who Magazine reader’s poll, fans who came to Doctor Who with the new series voted Journey’s End the best Doctor Who story of all time, also placing the other series finales in their top 5 and relegating Caves of Androzani to number 10. So as we featured a funny plot synopsis comic of Caves of Androzani, we feel Journey’s End also deserves the treatment.

Luckily Chameleon Circuit have fit the bill perfectly with this track from their debut self-titled album, available from DFTBA records, from iTunes and Amazon MP3. Thanks to DFTBA records and the band for permission to use this track.

http://www.myspace.com/chameleoncircuitmusic

Bridging the Rift #8: Exploring Conventions

We’re joined by Chris Burgess of Radio Free Skaro to discuss what goes on at Doctor Who, Torchwood and general science fiction conventions and what’s the best way to experience them.

We also discuss your fan fiction and Russell T Davies feedback, and look at the types of fan creativity seen at conventions.

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Show Notes

Introductions

@ 1 minute – Chris introduces himself:

http://twitter.com/dubbayoo
http://www.radiofreeskaro.com/

Rebuttals

@ 2 minutes 15 seconds – We look at feedback to episode 6, our Fan Fiction discussion.

@ 9 minutes 10 seconds – We enter the feedback loop to discuss follow up comments on Russell T Davies’ attitude towards fandom:

Unreality SF interviews RTD and Benjamin Cook about ‘ming mongs’: http://unreality-sf.net/interviews/thewriterstale.html
Victoria Wood ‘But Doctor, we haven’t got the ming mongs!’: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Tbe3W6hWyw

Creativity Corner

@ 30 minutes 10 seconds – We look at the fan creativity on show at conventions:

Costuming / Cosplay:

Tardis Tara (Tara Wheeler)’s high speed video of the cosplayers with the Tardis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ae30q8SQzK4
Doctor Who Cosplay Livejournal Community: http://community.livejournal.com/dw_cosplay/

Fan-made Daleks:

Project Dalek: http://www.projectdalek.co.uk/
Daleks Builders: http://www.dalekbuilders.co.uk/
Dalek Storm: http://www.projectdalek.co.uk/storm/

Fan-made Tardises:

Tardis Tara: http://tardis-tara.livejournal.com/
Tardis Builders: http://tardisboard.proboards.com/

Main Discussion – Doctor Who, Torchwood and Sci-Fi Conventions

@ 44 minutes 40 seconds:

Gallifrey One:
Official site: http://www.gallifreyone.com/
Radio Free Skaro episodes recorded at Gallifrey 20:
http://www.radiofreeskaro.com/2009/02/13/radio-free-skaro-122-live-from-gallifrey/
http://www.radiofreeskaro.com/2009/02/14/radio-free-skaro-interviews-phil-collinson/
http://www.radiofreeskaro.com/2009/02/14/radio-free-skaro-123-shearman-after-dark/
http://www.radiofreeskaro.com/2009/02/15/radio-free-skaro-124-two-scoops-of-hooray/
http://www.radiofreeskaro.com/2009/02/16/radio-free-skaro-125-toclafantastic/

Whooverville:
Official site: http://www.whoovers.org.uk/whooverville.html
The Whoovers fan group: http://www.whoovers.org.uk/
Staggering Stories cover the event: http://blog.staggeringstories.net/?p=347
The Podcasting Panel: http://www.radiofreeskaro.com/2009/09/09/radio-free-skaro-presents-podcest-the-whooverville-podcast-panel/
Nat’s TwitPics: http://twitpic.com/gr3mg

Redemption:
Official Site: http://www.conventions.org.uk/redemption/
LiveJournal Community: http://community.livejournal.com/redemption_con/
Nat’s con report: http://36.livejournal.com/783749.html http://36.livejournal.com/tag/redemption
The Council of Rivendell: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kx7ON43yhI0 (Cabaret sketch)
Ruler of the Universe photos:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/7306297@N07/tags/rsf/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/zarpism/3323430847/in/pool-redemptioncon
http://www.flickr.com/photos/35869534@N06/3318370529/in/pool-redemptioncon
http://www.flickr.com/photos/iain_joanna/3330847826/in/pool-redemptioncon

Other Conventions Mentioned:
Regenerations Swansea: http://www.regenerationsswansea.co.uk/
Who Party Toronto: http://www.whopartytoronto.com/
Hurricane Who: http://www.hurricanewho.com/ http://www.hurricanewho.com/2009/01/bon-voyage-party/
Who at the FAB Cafe: http://fanslikeus.org.uk/fabcafe2.html
Dimensions: http://www.tenthplanetevents.co.uk/dimensions–09-10-c.asp
Bad Wolf: http://www.tenthplanetevents.co.uk/bad-wolf-2010-36-c.asp

Next Time

@ 1 hour 34 minutes 30 seconds – Next time we’ll be discussing Doctor Who universe funny fan art and gag comics.

If you have any comments about our discussions this week, or can tell us more about UK weekend conventions, give your feedback in the comments, directed @BridgingTheRift on twitter or emailed to our GoogleMail address.

Trocking Out

@ 1 hour 35 minutes 15 seconds – We play out with The Stars are Made of Diamonds, written by Alex from Northern Ireland aka One Man, Two Hearts and performed by Sean from Victoria, Australia aka Mr Saxon. You can hear more from them on MySpace:

http://www.myspace.com/onemantwohearts
http://www.myspace.com/mrsaxontrock

Bridging the Rift #7: But is it Canon?

We’re joined by Tom Dickinson from The Cloister Room Podcast to discuss what canon is, where the term comes from, and whether the Doctor Who Universe has one, and if not why.

We also hear your defence of Jon Pertwee’s Third Doctor, look at classic series feedback and some extra special fan creativity.

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Show Notes

Introductions

@ 1 minute – Tom introduces himself:

http://twitter.com/tdickinson
http://thecloisterroom.com/
http://twitter.com/TheCloisterRoom
http://www.youtube.com/user/videobloggery

Rebuttals

@ 2 minutes 10 seconds – We look at feedback to episode 5, our Classic Series discussion:

Punk Davros by Julian aka @Braxietel: http://type40productions.deviantart.com/art/Punk-Davros-135497253

Jon Pertwee discussion in the comments: http://bridgingtherift.wordpress.com/2009/08/30/bridging-the-rift-5-appreciating-the-classics/#comments

Creativity Corner

@ 16 minutes 5 seconds – No theme this week, but here’s what caught our eye:

An amazing Tardis cake: http://www.doitmyself.org/2009/08/tardis-cake.html

DailyCrumb’s surreal Matt Smith Eleventh Doctor animation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLgqY2DTs6Q

Main Discussion – Does Doctor Who Have A Canon?

@ 23 minutes – Canon in the Star Wars Universe:

Star Wars Canon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_Expanded_Universe#Continuity_and_canonicity
Canon Wars’ exhaustive exploration of Star Wars canon: http://www.canonwars.com/SWCanon2.html

@ 27 minutes 55 seconds – The blog posts that started this discussion:

Teatime Brutality: http://teatimebrutality.blogspot.com/2009/07/canon-and-sheep-shit-why-we-fight.html
Paul Cornell in 2007: http://www.paulcornell.com/2007/02/canonicity-in-doctor-who.html
Tom’s Cloister Room canon episode: http://thecloisterroom.com/index.php?post_id=515580

@ 30 minutes 42 seconds – Why might the current creative team not want to declare canon?

Virgin New Adventures: http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Virgin_New_Adventures
Big Finish official site: http://www.bigfinish.com/Doctor-Who
Big Finish writers: http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Big_Finish_Doctor_Who_Audio_Dramas
RTD’s interview with AVClub.com: http://www.avclub.com/articles/russell-t-davies,30869/

@ 57 minutes – Where the fannish term ‘canon’ comes from:

Ronald Knox: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Knox
Fanlore: Sherlock Holmes: http://67.23.2.53/wiki/Sherlock_Holmes
Knox’s original essay: http://www.diogenes-club.com/studies.htm
The Sacred Writings of Dr John H. Watson: http://www.librarything.com/work/2737484

Bonus link!: http://www.qwantz.com/index.php?comic=291

Next Time

@ 1 hour 25 minutes 50 seconds – Next time we’ll be discussing Doctor Who conventions and get togethers.

If you disagree with our opinions on canon, or have any theories of your own, or if you have more classic series or Pertwee feedback or more punk daleks, give your feedback in the comments, directed @BridgingTheRift on twitter or emailed to our GoogleMail address.

Trocking Out

@ 1 hour 26 minutes 30 seconds – We play out with a Classic Series trock song by our guest’s new band Blinovich (see Mawdryn Undead)! Exploring the ending to 1986’s The Trial of a Time Lord, it’s The Ultimate Foe! Check out Tom’s YouTube channel VideoBloggery for the music video and another (very funny) trock song:

The Ultimate Foe: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMMsuhwZ7Bo
Exterminate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9NLWNqC_-g
VideoBloggery: http://www.youtube.com/user/videobloggery

Bridging the Rift #6: The World of Fan Fiction

We’re joined by Spider aka Spiderine on LiveJournal to discuss the different types Doctor Who Universe fan fiction and where to find them, and the legal position of transformative works.

We also look at your feedback for our Russell T Davies episode and travel back in time to episode 5 to hear the classic series Creativity Corner we recorded with Steven.

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Show Notes

Introductions

@ 1 minute – We introduce Torchwood and New Series Doctor Who fan fiction writer Spider:
http://spiderine.livejournal.com/
http://twitter.com/spiderine

News

@ 2 minutes 42 seconds – Nat will be at the Whooverville one day Doctor Who convention at the Midland Railway Centre near Ripley in Derbyshire this Sunday – that’s the 6th of September – if you’re attending, Nat would love to hear from you:
http://www.whoovers.org.uk/whooverville.html
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=51032158444
http://twitter.com/thirtysix (Nat’s Twitter)

Creativity Corner

@ 4 minutes 17 seconds – We travel back to episode 5 where we were joined by Steven from Radio Free Skaro to discuss the classic series. As we overran, this is the discussion we recorded about classic series fan creativity:

Fan art:

mimi-na’s classic who fan art:
http://mimi-na.deviantart.com/art/Doctor-s-Girls-46247500
http://mimi-na.deviantart.com/art/Doctor-s-Boys-58481472
http://mimi-na.deviantart.com/art/Monsters-of-Whodom-68755440
http://mimi-na.deviantart.com/art/omg-DOCTORZ-46815474

Fan art of jlfletch, often used for signings:
http://jlfletch.deviantart.com/gallery/#Doctor-Who

Fan art of harnois75 (featured in past Doctor Who Storybooks):
http://harnois75.deviantart.com/art/Gell-Guards-123672466
http://harnois75.deviantart.com/art/The-Keys-of-Marinus-Island-123722188
http://harnois75.deviantart.com/art/Marco-Polo-on-the-mountain-123721632
http://harnois75.deviantart.com/art/Genesis-2-125271032
http://harnois75.deviantart.com/art/Invasion-of-the-Dinosaurs-123868644
http://harnois75.deviantart.com/art/Whomobile-chase-125084726
(and many more)

Fan videos:

Babelcolour’s tributes to the Doctors etc:
http://www.youtube.com/user/babelcolour
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCZhlEdGIm0 (all stories 1963 to 2008, Eurythmics Sweet Dreams mash up)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoxQKGDPtoo (the First Doctor, Back in 64, the Ruttles)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Xm26StUZVY (the Second Doctor, The Littlest Hobo)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENg0N-EC07 (the Third Doctor, Hero, Bonnie Tyler)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQfz48VJk1U (the Fifth Doctor, the Kinks Cricket)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu2061ieHSc (the Sixth Doctor, My Coat of Many Colours)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9BqnxGp4HA (the Eighth Doctor, English Man in New York)

Farmergeddon71’s Doctor Who spoofs:
http://www.youtube.com/user/farmergeddon71
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lmh8xeX6SG0 (Flight of the Darned)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZ8bZgWEoaY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe3e5kmtduc (Five Doctors spoof parts 1 and 2)

Rebuttals

Correction: In episode 5 Nat stated that Harold S. recommended Captain Jack and the TARDIS by Rhodri James when in fact he recommended a filk of the same folk song, called Captain Jack and the Tardis by a filker called Crystal Paul. We apologise for confusing these two Doctor Who filks to the same tune.

@ 14 minutes 50 seconds – We look at your feedback to episode 4 where we were joined by Kate Orman to discuss fandom’s relationship with Russell T Davies:

Three suggestions for accessories for the Russell T Davies action figure featured in Creativity Corner:
http://russelh.deviantart.com/art/RTD-fig-81867715

The creator of the RTD figure, russellh is keen to hear your suggestions for accessories and may include them in an improved version! If you have more, leave yours in the comments.

Anattendantlord provides us with context for Rona Munro’s comments on romance in Doctor Who being lazy writing:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/2009/aug/09/rona-munro-edinburgh-festival

We discuss Julian aka Braxietel’s comments about whether we were too lenient on Russell T Davies.

Spider gives her criticisms of RTD.

Main Discussion

@ 34 minutes – We discuss what fan fiction is, explain some common types of fics, explore Doctor Who Universe pairings and stories, and discuss disclaimers and legalities of fanfiction versus published works:

Fanfic recommendation communities/fanfiction communities on livejournal:

http://community.livejournal.com/Torchwood_house/
http://community.livejournal.com/Torch_wood
http://community.livejournal.com/Torchwood_three/ (newsletter)
http://community.livejournal.com/doctorwho/
http://community.livejournal.com/who_daily/ (newsletter)

Archives:

A Teaspoon and an Open Mind: http://www.whofic.com/
Fanfiction.net: http://www.fanfiction.net/

The legal position of fan fiction:

Organization for Transformative Works (OTW): http://transformativeworks.org/
Fair Use: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use

Fan fiction mentioned:

The Mascot: (Steven/Hi Fi fanfiction) http://www.whofic.com/viewstory.php?sid=23275
Omnijackual: http://community.livejournal.com/omnijaxual/
Copperbadge aka sam_storyteller: http://sam-storyteller.livejournal.com/

Next time

1 hour 34 minutes 15 seconds – Next episode we’ll be discussing whether or not Doctor Who has a true ‘canon’, what canon is and what’s included in it.

Trocking Out

1 hour 35 minutes 45 seconds – We play out with Donna’s Song by trock band Exerminate! from Pennsylvania, USA. You can hear more from the band at:
http://www.myspace.com/exterminatemusic

Bridging the Rift #5: Appreciating the Classics

We’re joined by Steven of Radio Free Skaro and The Chronic Hysteresis to discuss the best way for fans of the new series of Doctor Who to get into and fully appreciate the classic series.

We also return to the trock special to discuss your suggestions for Doctor Who music we overlooked and break news of some upcoming classic series trock songs!

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Show Notes

Introductions

@ 1 minute – Steven introduces himself:

Legopolis on Twitter
One of the Three Who Rule from Radio Free Skaro
The Chronic Hysteresis

Rebuttals – Trock Opera

@ 3 minutes – We look at more Trock fan art and your suggestions for Doctor Who music we missed:
CHAMELEON CIRCUIT fan art by Briz of BrizyComics
Shooting Stars – The Who (TV comedy sketch)
Who Are They fan art by chrono01 (Based on this classic The Who album cover)
You Really Got Me – The Tom Baker Version (Created using BT Text Message to Phone Call service, see http://tombakersays.com/)
Filk – Captain Jack and the Doctor by Rhodri James (see songbook On The Filk Road)
Filk – The Grandfather Clock by Cecilia Eng (Scroll down for lyrics, Available on CD, Of Shoes And Ships, Original tune, My Grandfather’s Clock by Henry Clay Work)
I Am A Dalek by The Art Attacks (Punk trock, 1977)
Disco Davros fan art by spacecowboy76
Ballad of the Last Chance Saloon (from the Hartnell serial The Gunfighters)

@ 16 minutes – Upcoming classic series trock songs:

Turn Left
Time Agency

Main Discussion – Getting Into The Classic Series

The official BBC Classic Doctor Who site: http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/classic/

@ 17 minutes 30 seconds – We do we like the classic series?

@ 27 minutes – Is Jon Pertwee’s Third Doctor like James Bond?

@ 33 minutes 50 seconds – How does the classic series differ most from modern Doctor Who?

@ 49 minutes 50 seconds – What’s the best classic story to introduce new series fans to the classic series?

Not City of Death
An Unearthly Child (episode 1 only)
Horror of Fang Rock
The Curse of Fenric
Remembrance of the Daleks
Robot
Mawdryn Undead

@ 58 minutes 30 seconds – Does it depend on what the person likes?

Character development: 5th Doctor and 7th Doctor

Good effects: 1st minute of The Trial of a Time Lord

No bad special effects: The Happiness Patrol, Horror of Fang Rock

Timey Wimey: The Ark, Mawdryn Undead

Body Horror: The Ark In Space, The Seeds of Doom

@ 1 hour – Are the multi-Doctor stories a good introduction?

The Five Doctors
The Three Doctors
But probably not The Two Doctors

@ 1 hour 6 minutes – What’s the best introduction to each Doctor’s era?

First Doctor:

An Unearthly Child
The Daleks
The Aztecs

Second Doctor:

The Krotons
Tomb of the Cybermen
The Invasion

Third Doctor:

Inferno
The Green Death
The Time Warrior

Fourth Doctor:

Hinchcliffe/Holmes era:
The Ark In Space
Genesis of the Daleks
Horror of Fang Rock (OK technically Williams era, but feels like H/H)

Graham Williams era:
The Horns of Nimon (?!)
City of Death

JNT era:
Full Circle

Fifth Doctor:

Black Guardian Trilogy
Earthshock
Time-Flight (?!)
We couldn’t agree on Resurrection of the Daleks

Sixth Doctor:

Trial of a Time Lord
The Mark of the Rani
Revelation of the Daleks
Vengeance on Varos
Not Timelash

Seventh Doctor:

Survival
Curse of Fenric
Remembrance of the Daleks

Eighth Doctor:

The Big Finish Audios
Possibly The TV Movie

@ 1 hour 13 minutes 30 seconds – What’s the best story to watch for particular recurring characters or races?

Daleks:

Genesis of the Daleks
Remembrance of the Daleks
Reconstructions of The Power of the Daleks

Cybermen:

Earthshock
The Tomb of the Cybermen
The Invasion

Master:

Mind of Evil
The Sea Devils
The Deadly Assassin
Planet of Fire
New Beginnings (Keeper of Traken, Logopolis, Castrovalva)

Sarah Jane:

The Seeds of Doom
The Hand of Fear

K9:

Androids of Tara
The Invisible Enemy
YouTube clips of Tom Baker complaining

The Autons:

Spearhead from Space
Terror of the Autons

The Sontarans:

The Time Warrior
The Sontaran Experiment
The Invasion of Time

@ 1 hour 18 minutes 10 seconds – Other ways to get into the series:

Websites:

Gallifrey Base Forum, The Timelash
Behind The Sofa, Stripped Down
The Chronic Hysteresis
The Daily Drew
Who Daily on Livejournal
Official BBC Worldwide Doctor Who YouTube clips

@ 1 hour 18 minutes 10 seconds – Legal methods of experiencing missing classic series episodes:

Telesnap Photo Novels
Marco Polo reconstruction on The Beginning Box Set
BBC Soundtrack CDs (Power of the Daleks has a full reconstruction)
Target Novelisations

@ 1 hour 34 minutes 25 seconds – Podcasts:

Hoo on Who
The Flashing Blade
Radio Free Skaro
Doctor Who Podshock
The Tin Dog Podcast

@ 1 hour 39 minutes 45 seconds – Fan-made Commentaries:

Tachyon TV
Radio Free Skaro
A Podcast of Impossible Things
MMM Commentaries
Zarban.com The House of Commentaries

@ 1 hour 45 minutes 45 seconds – Wrapping up

Creativity Corner has been moved to next episode as we overran recording this episode. We’ll try to keep to time in future episodes!

If you have any suggestions of episodes, sites or any other ways into the classic series, please let us know via bridgingtherift.wordpress.com, in email to our GoogleMail or directed @BridgingTheRift on twitter.

Next Time

@ 1 hour 46 minutes 30 seconds – Next week we’ll be revisiting our Russell T Davies episode with your rebuttals and discussing all things fictional in a fan fiction special.

Trocking Out

@ 1 hour 46 minutes 50 seconds – We play out with one of the few classic series trock songs that looks at an aspect of the history of the classic series – Gallifreyan History 101 by Chameleon Circuit, available from iTunes, Amazon MP3 and on CD. Thanks to DFTBA records and the band for permission to use this song.

Bridging the Rift #4: Russell T Davies and Fandom

We’re joined by Virgin New Adventures, BBC Eighth Doctor novels and Short Trips author Kate Orman to discuss fandom’s attitudes to Russell T Davies, and how Davies refers to fandom.

We also discuss your ideas about continuing Torchwood after Children of Earth and play out with more Time Lord Rock music.

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Show Notes

Introductions

@ 1 minute – Kate introduces herself:

http://kateorman.livejournal.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kate_Orman
Kate’s books on Amazon.co.uk

Rebuttals

@ 2 minutes – Todd’s comments on episode 1

@ 2 minutes 25 seconds – Aren’t all relationships in sci-fi doomed?

@ 10 minutes 30 seconds – Could series 4 follow a Torchwood 2 or 4 unstuck in space or time?

@ 15 minutes 10 seconds – Could the Doctor ‘help’ Jack by removing his memories, as he ‘helped’ Donna in Journey’s End?

@ 19 minutes 50 seconds – Draculasaurus’s comments on episode 2 about an American branch of Torchwood

Creativity Corner

@ 22 minutes 50 seconds – Russell T Davies fan art:

http://bluejeanius.livejournal.com/26084.html#cutid1
http://russelh.deviantart.com/art/RTD-fig-81867715
http://willmeister42.deviantart.com/art/AnyWho-12-Justice-90072642
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:The_Shadow_Proclamation_by_Russell_T_Davies.png

Main discussion

@ 29 minutes – Listening to some fans, you’d think Russell T Davies was the worst thing to happen to Doctor Who, why is this?

@ 34 minutes – We discuss common fan complaints against RTD’s writing:

@ 34 minutes 20 seconds – RTD turned Doctor Who into a soap opera

@ 38 minutes 45 seconds – Including romance is ‘lazy writing’

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/cult/a170471/former-who-writer-doc-snogging-is-lazy.html

@ 44 minutes 15 seconds – Russell is generally a lazy writer

Doctor Who Magazine 407’s interview with Christopher H Bidmead

@ 51 minutes 33 seconds – The character of Rose becomes unlikeable in series 2

@ 53 minutes 10 seconds – Episodes by other writers are bad because of RTD’s rewrites or influence

@ 55 minutes 54 seconds – Isn’t script edited

@ 58 minutes – Deus Ex Machina endings (Bad at epic stories or bad at endings in general)

@ 1 hour 7 minutes 27 seconds – Stories are too Earthbound

@ 1 hour 15 minutes 26 seconds – Doesn’t take science fiction or the future seriously

@ 1 hour 18 minutes 53 seconds – Gay agenda

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/2009/08/02/fans-react-with-threats-to-ianto-s-death-in-torchwood-91466-24294228/

@ 1 hour 25 minutes 32 seconds – Misuses religious imagery

@ 1 hour 28 minutes 19 seconds – Childish humour, burping bins, farting aliens

@ 1 hour 29 minutes 14 seconds – Just not liking the story (Nat talks about inconsistency in series 3)

@ 1 hour 31 minutes 26 seconds – People forget that RTD is a huge fan of Doctor Who

@ 1 hour 33 minutes 18 seconds – He’s supported fan creativity and spin off media where other show runners might not

@ 1 hour 35 minutes 30 seconds – The way RTD refers to fandom with cheeky remarks or outright dismissal

Audience Appreciation figures
http://journal.neilgaiman.com/2009/05/entitlement-issues.html

@ 1 hour 44 minutes 40 seconds – Wrapping up

Next Time

@ 1 hours 46 minutes 20 seconds – We’re sure that not everyone will agree with the opinions discussed in this episode. If you disagree or have any other comments, please send your feedback via bridgingtherift.wordpress.com, in email to our GoogleMail or directed @BridgingTheRift on twitter.

Next week we’ll be revisiting trock in our rebuttals section and looking at the best way for fans of the new series to explore the classic series.

Trocking Out

@ 1 hour 47 – We trock out to You Are Not Alone by KronksSpinachPuffs now known on YouTube as songsfrompaul. Thanks to Paul for kind permission to use this song.